[Dancecult-l] privacy on dancecult

[Luis-Manuel Garcia]

Hi all,

Sorry for my radio silence on this list during this past year; my excuse is
that it has been a fieldwork year, and EDM fieldwork can be exhausting.

Anyway, I'm also in agreement with Gonnie and Wayne regarding the privacy
settings of this list. As I understand it, the primary goal of this list is
to provide a discursive space where a network of dance-music scholars can
develop and support each other's work. There are plenty of other mailing
lists / yahoo groups / ResidentAdvisor or mnml.nl boards where people can
congregate as fans, participants, promoters, and performers, so I understand
that the distinguishing characteristic of this list is its scholarly /
academic discursive register.

I took it as implicit that a scholarly register requires "publication" in
some strong sense—that is: 1) clear identification of contributors with
institutional affiliations; 2) exposure to the analysis and critique of
one's peers and colleagues; 3) a persistent, accessible form of
documentation that allows future and "outside" scholars to also learn from
our work.

I understand that this limits what can be "safely" disclosed on this list,
especially since many of us work on musical scenes where illicit and/or
salacious activities can form part of the culture (e.g., drug use,
organizing events without proper permits, darkrooms/backrooms), but these
are the same limits that we would have to put on ourselves when publishing
our work into journals and books. So I see this as an extension of the
scholarly register onto the internet, rather than a collective
blog/diary/social network.

cheers from sunny Paris,

Luis-Manuel Garcia
PhD Candidate, Ethnomusicology
University of Chicago

On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, wayne marshall <wayneandwax at gmail.com>wrote:

> I have to second Gonnie's thoughts here. I think it's quite important --
> imperative even -- to keep the archives open, searchable, and accessible,
> especially given the general interest in the topic(s) at hand.
>
> Best,
> Wayne
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Hillegonda <Hillegonda at zoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Thamyris,
>>
>> Thank you for the illuminating explanation. Since this forum is about
>> research and not about personal matters, this seems to pose hardly any
>> problems. My employers would be delighted to see that I'm actively engaging
>> in my research activities, so the current privacy settings seems a bonus in
>> this scenario.
>>
>> In addition, the fact that this archive is open access means that we
>> communicate in an appropriately mutually respectful manner in intelligent
>> debate regarding the matter at hand.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Gonnie
>>
>>
>>
>> Thamyris Winberg wrote:
>>
>>> Just to clarify what websearchable means. If someone (your employer, your
>>> family, your colleagues, etc. . .) does a google or other search on your
>>> email handle or email address (or real name, if it is included in that
>>> address), your correspondence on DanceCult will come up.  This means that
>>> whenever you converse on DanceCult you publish for the world under your own
>>> identity, unless you use and have used an anonymous email address and
>>> handle. In other words, the present system is a model of public
>>> transparency.
>>> There are also more alternatives than making the list accessible to
>>> members only, although they might take doing.  Another alternative would be
>>> to still have a publically downloadable archive that is 'not' websearchable
>>> in all its details (many listserves have gone this way). The downside being
>>> that people doing websearches on particular topics will not come upon the
>>> archives, unless they seek them out.  So yet another alternative, probably
>>> impossible given the setting, would be to have archives that scramble exact
>>> emails and personal headings, but leave the dialogue intact.
>>> Since I for one am unlikely to consistently use an anonymous secondary
>>> email (like the one I just opened to send this message) just for dancecult,
>>> and since I don't really want my dance-cult correspondence to come up on
>>> websearches under my name, I for one, am dissuaded from using the service
>>> more on account of the present privacy setting.
>>>
>>> Cheers All, TW
>>>
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