[Dancecult-l] Muslim raves

[pavel]

hello!

> Then there's all of Eastern Europe, which has significant Muslim
populations...

actually, Muslim population isn't really huge in Eastern Europe at all.
these are predominantly Christian - or even secular/atheistic countries
(especially in case of post-soviet ones). and Muslim communities there are
rather traditional and tight - raves seem to be incompatible with their
traditions. maybe something like that exists in couple of Balcan countries,
where there are more Muslims -  this region has club\open-air scenes for
sure - and maybe some young Muslims go to raves and parties there. but i'm
think those are just a standard type of dance events.

but there is some music in East European or Post Soviet states that somehow
incorporates/appropriates Muslim music of symbolism. for example, there's a
electropop project SuperAlisa from Tatarstan - one of republics of Russian
Federation. Tatarstan is a Muslim region (but moderate) and as far as i know
they have quite a thriving electronic scene in their capital - Kazan. some
SuperAlisa's music is here - http://www.last.fm/music/SuperAlisa,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDP2swojqAA
it's not a rave type but funny :)

cheers,

pavel

http://myspace.com/pavelambiont



On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:56 PM, > ! < <gonzo at quadrantcrossing.org> wrote:

>
> >From what I know through the Upgrade International network of media arts,
> there's raves all over Turkey, and a huge media arts scene there as well,
> with plenty of action in Istanbul:
>
>    http://www.nomad-tv.net/upgrade/
>    http://www.nomad-tv.net/
>
> Then there's all of Eastern Europe, which has significant Muslim
> populations...
>
> The question would need opening up. Do you mean to find raves in
> specifically Muslim countries -- ie in places where such events would
> appear
> (to us Westerners) to be heretic to national culture and law -- ? Ie, say
> Iran. Or Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, etc.
>
> Or is the point to search out "Muslim raves" along the same lines that one
> would search out explicitly religious "Christian raves" (a la Robin
> Sylvan)?
>
> Or by the fact that there are Muslims in attendance does it make the rave
> inherently Muslim? If so, then the Israeli trance scene be all "Jewish
> raves"?
>
> Ie, the different shades of Muslim need to be divested, in relation to
> geography, diaspora, nation, religion, culture...
>
> Definitely a fruitful avenue of research. Of course, theoretically charted
> out by Hakim Bey from the get-go... the TAZ is rooted in heretic Sufi... I
> wonder if there's a translation in Farsi... or Arabic...
>
> best/ t.
>
>
>
>
> > Just a quick question - I'm wondering if anyone knows about the
> > existence of anything that might approximate "raves" among Muslim
> > youth in any part of the globe? And if there might be any research /
> > documentation available?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Grraham
> >
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