[Dancecult-l] Muslim raves

[> ! <]

Yes, my apologies, by Eastern Europe I had meant to group (perhaps
erroneously) the Balkans.

> sure - and maybe some young Muslims go to raves and parties there. but i'm
> think those are just a standard type of dance events.

But this is the nut of the question -- why would "Muslim raves" be any
different by virtue of culture or default religious upbringing? etc.

best/ t.


> hello!
> 
>> Then there's all of Eastern Europe, which has significant Muslim
> populations...
> 
> actually, Muslim population isn't really huge in Eastern Europe at all.
> these are predominantly Christian - or even secular/atheistic countries
> (especially in case of post-soviet ones). and Muslim communities there are
> rather traditional and tight - raves seem to be incompatible with their
> traditions. maybe something like that exists in couple of Balcan countries,
> where there are more Muslims -  this region has club\open-air scenes for
> sure - and maybe some young Muslims go to raves and parties there. but i'm
> think those are just a standard type of dance events.
> 
> but there is some music in East European or Post Soviet states that somehow
> incorporates/appropriates Muslim music of symbolism. for example, there's a
> electropop project SuperAlisa from Tatarstan - one of republics of Russian
> Federation. Tatarstan is a Muslim region (but moderate) and as far as i know
> they have quite a thriving electronic scene in their capital - Kazan. some
> SuperAlisa's music is here - http://www.last.fm/music/SuperAlisa,
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDP2swojqAA
> it's not a rave type but funny :)
> 
> cheers,
> 
> pavel
> 
> http://myspace.com/pavelambiont
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:56 PM, > ! < <gonzo at quadrantcrossing.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> From what I know through the Upgrade International network of media arts,
>> there's raves all over Turkey, and a huge media arts scene there as well,
>> with plenty of action in Istanbul:
>> 
>>    http://www.nomad-tv.net/upgrade/
>>    http://www.nomad-tv.net/
>> 
>> Then there's all of Eastern Europe, which has significant Muslim
>> populations...
>> 
>> The question would need opening up. Do you mean to find raves in
>> specifically Muslim countries -- ie in places where such events would
>> appear
>> (to us Westerners) to be heretic to national culture and law -- ? Ie, say
>> Iran. Or Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, etc.
>> 
>> Or is the point to search out "Muslim raves" along the same lines that one
>> would search out explicitly religious "Christian raves" (a la Robin
>> Sylvan)?
>> 
>> Or by the fact that there are Muslims in attendance does it make the rave
>> inherently Muslim? If so, then the Israeli trance scene be all "Jewish
>> raves"?
>> 
>> Ie, the different shades of Muslim need to be divested, in relation to
>> geography, diaspora, nation, religion, culture...
>> 
>> Definitely a fruitful avenue of research. Of course, theoretically charted
>> out by Hakim Bey from the get-go... the TAZ is rooted in heretic Sufi... I
>> wonder if there's a translation in Farsi... or Arabic...
>> 
>> best/ t.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Just a quick question - I'm wondering if anyone knows about the
>>> existence of anything that might approximate "raves" among Muslim
>>> youth in any part of the globe? And if there might be any research /
>>> documentation available?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Grraham
>>> 
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