From sarahbxl at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 13:26:12 2009
From: sarahbxl at gmail.com (Sarah Kesenne)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:26:12 +0200
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>Journ?e d'?tude : Discours de l'internet

>

>

>

> Journ?e d'?tude organis?e le 22 octobre 2009 ? l'enssib, Villeurbanne

>

><*http://www.enssib.fr/npds/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=313*>*
http://www.enssib.fr/npds/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=313*

>

>Internet, les services qu?il propose,

>l?informatique en g?n?ral, semblent b?n?ficier

>d?un impact m?diatique largement favorable.

>Si certaines ?volutions (RFID, respect de la vie

>priv?e, droit d?auteur, etc.) appellent parfois

>certaines r?sistances, toute nouvelle invention,

>tout nouveau concept, tout nouveau service,

>g?n?re a priori un discours dans la presse, dans

>le monde politique, dans les m?dias en g?n?ral, quasi unanimement ?
enchant? ?.

>Pourquoi et comment ? Pourquoi la m?fiance ?

>l??gard des discours technicistes,

>technologiques qui avait cours dans les ann?es

>soixante et soixante-dix notamment semble

>largement marginalis?e, voire ridiculis?e quand

>il s?agit ? d?avanc?es ? informatiques ? Sur

>quelles th?ories s?appuie ce discours, quelles

>figures convoque-t-il, quelles en sont les principales d?clinaisons ?

>

>La journ?e se propose d?interroger non la

>r?alit? ou la r?futation du discours ? mais le

>discours lui-m?me. Qu?est-ce qui le construit,

>comment il se construit, comment il se diffuse,

>comment il s?accepte ou se refuse.

>

>

>Programme

>

>

>

>Introduction

>

> * 9h30 ? 10h00 : Pr?sentation de la journ?e.

> *

>

>

>Premier mouvement : Discours fondateurs (et oubli?s ?)

>

>

>

>Penser et mettre en perspective le discours

>technique, ou techniciser le discours, ces deux

>tentations ont travers? l??pist?mologie du XXIe

>si?cle. Retour sur deux th?ories.

> * 10h ? 10h30 : Norbert Wiener et la

> cybern?tique par Guy Lacroix (Centre Pierre Naville, Universit? d??vry)

> * La figure de Norbert Wiener, fondateur de

> la cybern?tique, semble aujourd?hui en

> disgr?ce. Mais ce possible oubli ne serait-il

> pas plut?t la preuve absente de ce que sa

> th?orie de la communication est d?sormais si

> intimement int?gr?e ? la sph?re Internet

> qu?elle ne souffre plus ni contestation, ni

> commentaire ? Pourtant, si on y regarde de

> pr?s, le discours d?aujourd?hui autour des

> nouveaux outils communicants n??pouse

> qu?imparfaitement les postulats, les contours

> et les enthousiasmes de la cybern?tique en tant

> que science ? mais aussi en tant que discours.

> Il fait, du coup, silence sur les aspects les

> plus subversifs de la pens?e de Wiener .

> *

> * 10h30 ? 11h : Jacques Ellul et le bluff

> technologique par Andr? Vitalis (Universit? de Bordeaux 3)

> * Dans une s?rie d?ouvrages (Le bluff

> technologique, Le syst?me technicien) publi?s ?

> la naissance du syst?me informatique, Jacques

> Ellul n?aura eu de cesse de d?noncer le

> discours techniciste et technologique comme une

> s?rie de fausses in?vitabilit?s porteuses de

> dangereuses d?rives, en remettant

> essentiellement en question la notion m?me de

> progr?s technologique. Forc?ment dat?, son

> discours conserve-t-il une pertinence dans le

> tout-num?rique du XXIe si?cle ? Dans quelles

> limites ? Quelles inqui?tudes ou quelles esp?rances en pr?server ?

> *

> *

>

>

>Deuxi?me mouvement : Quelques discours remarquables

>

>

>

>Le discours autour de l?Internet se construit

>aussi autour de th?mes ou d?anecdotes qui ont

>valeur d?exorcisme ou de cristallisation, de

>stigmatisation ou de d?tournement. Retour sur deux discours ? exemplaires
?.

> * 11h - 11h30 : Le bogue, dix ans apr?s par Yves Desrichard (enssib)

> * Il y a dix ans tout juste, ? l?humanit? ?

> s?appr?te ? vivre, le 31 d?cembre 1999, la plus

> grande catastrophe technologique de tous les

> temps, le ? bogue de l?an 2000 ?. Cataclysmes

> divers et catastrophes h?t?rog?nes ?taient

> promis ? tous les incr?dules non pr?par?s. On

> sait ce qu?il en advint. Comment s?est

> construit le discours du bogue ? Quelles en

> ?taient les fondations, les variantes et les

> avatars ? Qu?en est-il de la post?rit? de cette

> imposture ? ?tait-ce, d?ailleurs (dans le discours) une imposture ?

> *

> * 11h30 ? 12h00 : D?bat

> * 14h00 - 14h30 : La fracture num?rique ?

> dix ans apr?s ? par ?ric Guichard (enssib)

> * Posture politique au succ?s inattendu, la

> ? fracture num?rique ? a longtemps structur?

> les discours sur l?extension sociale du domaine

> informatique en en justifiant les avanc?es les

> plus volontaristes. Articul? autour de

> l?antienne ? bien ant?rieure ? du ? retard

> technologique ?, le discours autour de cette

> fracture l?gitime postures sociologiques et

> formalisations ?conomiques. Mais comment se

> constitue-t-elle ou plut?t, qui la constitue ?

> Sous quelles formes ? Et pour quels int?r?ts ?

> *

>

>

>Troisi?me mouvement : D?clinaisons du discours

>

>

>

>Internet s?est pens? comme rupture du discours

>autour de l?informatique, comme une ? nouvelle

>fronti?re ? technique et sociale. Qu?en est-il

>exactement ? Au fond, et depuis le d?but de

>l?informatique, ne parle-t-on pas toujours de la

>m?me chose et toujours de la m?me mani?re ?

> * 14h30 - 15h00 : L'impens? informatique,

> des ann?es 70 ? Internet par Pascal Robert

> (Universit? d'Aix-Marseille II - Irsic ; IEP d'Aix-en-Provence - Cherpa)

> * Les repr?sentations sociales d'Internet ne

> peuvent ?tre s?par?es de celles de

> l'informatique. Lorsqu'on questionne ces

> repr?sentations en cherchant ? comprendre la

> fonction qu'elles remplissent dans notre

> soci?t? on s'aper?oit qu'il n'en va pas d'un

> imaginaire mais d'un v?ritable Impens?. Ces

> discours ne nous apprennent en d?finitive pas

> grand chose mais servent surtout ? occuper la

> place, ? ?viter de les soumettre aux vraies questions politiques et
?thiques.

> *

> * 15h00 - 15h30 : Le web participatif et

> l'information "citoyenne" : un discours par

> Franck Rebillard (Universit? Lumi?re Lyon 2)

> * Apparue au milieu des ann?es 2000, la

> formule ? succ?s de web 2.0 ?voque un nouvel

> ?ge pour les applications et les usages ? grand

> public ? de l?Internet, supposant notamment une

> participation de tous ? la cr?ation de contenus

> num?riques. A travers l?exemple du ?

> journalisme participatif ?, il sera d?montr?

> qu?un tel discours non seulement n??pouse pas

> la totalit? de la r?alit? sociale, mais

> r?active ?galement sous un voile id?ologique

> plus r?cent correspondant au ? nouvel esprit du

> capitalisme ? des visions utopiques que Wiener

> ou Saint-Simon n?auraient pas forc?ment reni?es en leur temps.

> *

> * 15h30 ? 16h00 : D?bat

> *

>

>

>Conclusion qui n?a rien ? voir, mais qui r?sume le tout

>

>

>

> * 16h00 ? 16h30 : Intervention surprise

> *

>

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From geert at xs4all.nl  Sat Sep  5 21:31:13 2009
From: geert at xs4all.nl (Geert Lovink)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 21:31:13 +0200
Subject: <videovortex> =?windows-1252?q?Thesis_of_Minke_Kampman_on_YouPart?=
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http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2009/09/04/youparticipate-the-politics-of-youtubes-flagging-system/

YouParticipate: the politics of YouTube?s flagging system
Minke Kampman | 04 September 2009, 7:39 pm | tags: flagging, Henry  
Jenkins, moderation, participation, user-controlled content, youtube
My thesis is about a seemingly small detail of YouTube?s interface,  
the ?flag? button. I got intrigued by this function because of the  
politics that are at play behind it, hence the title ?YouPartipate:  
the politics of YouTube?s flagging system? [there is a .pdf...] . The  
function is not exclusive to YouTube, but it is one of the more self- 
reflexive platforms. In the sense that the YouTube community talks  
quite frequently about changes in the platform, software, interface  
etc. or what they like to see changed. Most of the time this is the  
only way for the community to comment on the rest of the community and/ 
or YouTube. Flagging gives the community a tool to participate in  
regulating the content. If a community member thinks a certain video  
is inappropriate, he/she can flag it for the YouTube team to have a  
look at. This sounds quite straightforward and shows how convergence  
culture, as described by Henry Jenkins, presents itself in the  
flagging system on YouTube. The user is enabled by the company to have  
a certain amount of control (corporate convergence).

But one might argue that this sense of control is false, for YouTube  
has the last say in the matter. Why ask the community to go around and  
flag videos, when YouTube will decide whether they did a good job? To  
avoid misuse, YouTube does not get too much into the details of back- 
end of the flagging system. But trying to deconstruct this, shows that  
certain flagging categories seem to have a higher priority over  
others. It also shows that there is a certain hierarchy amongst the  
flag-checkers at YouTube, with three Google persons at the top of  
this. This lack of transparency in the actual workings of flagging  
causes (part of) the community to take matters in their own hands and  
they started to misuse the system. Videos flagged for copyright were  
muted faster than videos flagged for spam, so people started to flag  
for this reason. And soon the flagging wars begun. In which flaggers  
did not target a certain video per se, but a certain side in  
discussions ( such as pro vs anti scientology / islam / US etc.) The  
community started to use the flagging tool differently from what it  
initially was meant for, this appropriation of the tool can be  
interpreted as grassroots convergence.

By deconstructing the flagging system in how it relates to YouTube?s  
overall model of moderation, how it is presented by the company and  
how it is both experienced and used by the community, I am giving not  
only an overview of the politics that are at play within the flagging  
system. But it also forms the beginnings of the next step of the  
grassroots convergence that is taking place at YouTube, in which I  
disagree with Jenkins? distinction between the concept of  
?participation? and ?interactivity?. According to Jenkins  
participation is shaped by cultural and social protocols, while  
interactivity is shaped by technological protocol. By showing the  
different ways in which the YouTube community has appropriated the  
flagging system, I show the possibilities that technological protocol  
entails for participation. By analyzing the various issues and demands  
from the YouTube community and proposing a reputation model in  
addition to some changes in the flagging system, which is based on  
existing systems that experience the same type of issues.

The whole thesis can be read online here:

http://www.minkekampman.nl/index.php/2009/09/04/index/

From bcrevits at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 13:23:45 2009
From: bcrevits at gmail.com (Bram Crevits)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:23:45 +0200
Subject: <videovortex> Video Vortex 5
Message-ID: <F65C6694-FAEF-49F8-A162-3E7DCE9C01F1@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

This message to remind you that we are working on the next Video  
Vortex conference. Video Vortex 5 in Brussels will be held on Friday  
20th and Saturday 21st of November 2009.

For those who like to secure cheap travelling: The conference starts  
on 20/11 with a keynote at 13h30 in the Ilya Prigogine-sphere of the  
Brussels world-expo monument Atomium. There will be a special video  
screening program curated by Stoffel Debuysere and Mar?a Palacios Cruz  
on Fridaynight and on Saturday the conference is leading-in the  
opening night of Cimatics festival (20-29/11).
More program details will be announced very soon, but we hope we can  
welcome you for the 2-day Video Vortex conference at the Atomium in  
Brussels.

For more info contact videovortex at cimatics.com

See you there:

Video Vortex V
20-21 Nov. 2009
Brussels - Atomium






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From: noreply at netlogmail.com (teoman madra)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:09:00 -0000
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